Happy 250th USA!


"I just discovered you at Quillette and the discussion about oikofobia, very nice! I almost forgot the 250-years anniversary of the USA, as it was so little about it on Norwegian media. Just late yesterday evening I watched a clip from my wife scrolling YouTube, where Trump ride on a very nice train, I think he arrived in Dakota somewhere? Only Iranians love the USA and Israel here, they're very brave!!! The latter years I dug up the history of my great-great-great-grandfather Ovren Mikkelson, who emigrated to Cambridge, Wisconsin in 1871, 73 y.o., together with four kids. But nobody cares, neither here or there. It seems like the connection between Europe and the USA is gone." - PermaLiv

"Thank you, and yes, it's quite sad to see how baselessly despised we are by many Europeans. But sometimes it's a bit of a love-hate relationship: many Europeans do harbor a reluctant admiration or curiosity about the U.S. and hate that they do." - Benedict Beckeld

"As you took the time to answer me, I took the time to listen to the whole video. First I want to tell your Swedish accent is really nice. It should be noted that before our welfare state, we had what I call welfare pietism for about 100 years. From what I understand Norwegian pietism started with an edict from the state pietist Christian VI about "husandakten" or "house devotions", which meant the husbandman should gather all the people on the farm for listening to the word of God once a day. This developed into the pietist movement with the supreme leader Hans Nielsen Hauge, who too was an industrialist, and the man that to this day started most factories directly or indirectly in Norway, of which several still exist. The historian Berge Furre called Hauge the most important Norwegian by far, nobody comes close.

The pietist movement became very large with hundreds of factories and thousands of "bedehus" or "congregation halls", where people took very good care of one each other and developed strong communities and networks.

Unfortunately the pietist movement unraveled after WWI, where it was gradually replaced by the welfare state, which I will claim is the completely opposite of welfare pietism.

I hope to visit the museum of Sara Oust by the Vingelen Copper Mines by Tolga this summer, she was one of the early Haugians, and Norways first female business leader and preacher." - PermaLiv

"Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and "welfare pietism" is not a bad heuristic!" - Benedict Beckeld

"Amerikanerne er heldige! Selv har jeg hverken øl eller venner, samt at jeg er så flau over landet mitt, at jeg kun makter å feire nasjonaldagen i Skute kirke i Søndre Land. Dette da jeg ikke kan tenke meg flottere minnesmerke over den gylne tiden, enn denne nyromantiske stavkirka!" - PermaLiv

Benedict Beckeld er heldig, som havnet på rett side av Atlanteren, nå som forbindelsen mellom USA og Europa er brutt.

Dette vil si den biokulturelle koblingen mellom Fossemøllen II og Stoughton, som var den viktigste biokulturelle koblingen over Atlanterhavet, mellom USA og Europa.

Hadde vi fått leve i fred her i kværnenga vår, ville forholdet mellom USA og Europa være helt topp, med en ekstra stor flokk stolte Wisconsinnites nå i jubileumsåret, for å overvære det store Grythengspelet på festsletta øverst i Stysjin.

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