Monday, August 31, 2015

Skal det være noe poeng med fornybar energi trenger vi et helt nytt system

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Jeg vil gjerne sitere punkt 10 i andre halvdel av Gail Tverbergs siste essay, denne delen har tittelen "Where Did Modeling of Energy and the Economy Go Wrong?"
"If we are headed for a near term sharp break in the economy, there is no point in trying to add man-made renewables to the electric grid. The whole point of adding man-made renewables is to try to keep what we have today longer. But if the system is collapsing, the whole plan is futile. We end up extracting more coal and oil today, in order to add wind or solar PV to what will soon become a useless grid electric system. The grid system will not last long, because we cannot pay workers and we cannot maintain the grid without a financial system. So if we add man-made renewables, most of what we get is their short-term disadvantages, with few of their hoped-for long-term advantages."

Tittelen på essayet jeg kommenterer til er derfor et narrespill i dobbelt forstand. Poenget med å tilføre fornybar energi er å videreføre vårt nåværende kapitalistiske system. Ironien er at dette forsøket istedenfor vil tvinge hele systemet i kne raskere enn hva som ellers ville vært scenarioet, gjennom en deflasjonær kollaps.

Skal det være noe poeng med fornybar energi trenger vi et helt nytt system.
"What we really need is a whole new system, and for that, we would have to start over (or very close to start over–because we now know more than we did years ago). Theoretically, we could do what was done, say, 500 years ago, but it would be very difficult to transition. Our buildings we have today are designed for electricity, for example, with elevators and water pumped to the top. We need transportation, and horses wouldn’t work. There aren’t enough horses, and they would make too much of a mess.

We also have way too many people, now. Probably at least 10 times too many, or even more than that. Resources are more depleted now than they were 500 years ago.
If we didn’t have way too much population, degrowth would be a whole lot easier." - Gail Tverberg, kommentar:
Hadde ikke Norges forskningsråd avvist Terje Bongards MEDOSS i 2014, ville vi nå vært på god veg til å utvikle dette systemet:

Istedenfor er vi på god veg inn i et deflasjonskollaps som vil utradere de finansielle systemer, og med dette alle industrielle energisystemer!

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